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March 20, 2016 at 11:41 pm #6346
Johnny Sommerer
ParticipantHi Adam,
thanks for pitching in, great opportunity!
I "master" my own mixes and I'm pretty consent with the results soundwise, but there are (almost) always some db RMS missing, especially when i compare it to the latest Coldplay album for instance, where the waveform of every track looks like a thick black line, but it still sounds great. when I use something like that as a reference track and level match my production it sounds completely squashed and plainly bad. Of course I don't have the room and no expensive outboard gear (yet ;-), but it should be possible to get at least a little closer concerning loudness. my chain I use mostly at the moment is: Slate VCC, Custom EQ, Eiosis Air EQ, FG-Grey, FG-X and sometimes IK Multimedia Stealth Limiter additionally, which works fine in the verses, but when the bassdrum in the chorus kicks in ... ugh. Do you have any hints on achieving that, or what i should take a look at more?
thanks and cheers,Johnny
March 21, 2016 at 10:20 am #6365Adam Ayan
ParticipantHi Johnny,
Yes, getting good level while retaining musicality - it is not easy!!
Here is a tip - do not be afraid to treat different sections of the song differently. In other words, if you are getting great level in the Verses, but as you mentioned the Chorus kicks in and you have problems, then maybe you'll have to treat the Choruses differently.
Also the real big secret - getting it all right in the mix!!
I do not mean that as a disrespect (I realize you mix and master), but I mention it because I am willing to bet that going back to the mix will make the bigger difference vs. anything that you can do in mastering. I find every mix has a loudness potential, so to speak. Some mixes can take more level with less diminishing returns than others can. Take it back a step and refine, and my guess is you'll get further along.
Hope this helps!
AdamMarch 21, 2016 at 12:50 pm #6377Johnny Sommerer
ParticipantHi adam,
Thanks a lot, i already suspected that my problem area lies in the mix, but it's always good to hear stuff from someone like you! Great tip to treat specific parts differently, never tried that before!
Thanks again and keep up the good work (like on the incubus tracks)Cheers,
JohnnyMarch 22, 2016 at 12:53 pm #6437Adam Ayan
ParticipantYou're welcome Johnny. Thank you for the kind words!
Best,
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