Academy Dashboard Forum 2021 - Productions 2021 - Mar Bang a Gong [PLAPA version] peteysaw mix

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  • #87710
    Pete Sawchuk
    Participant

    This is an all-time favorite - I really enjoyed contributing to Jesper’s version for January’s Birthday-bration. When Warren & the boys recorded it, I couldn’t pass up the chance to add my existing tracks to theirs, hence this mix.

    Tracks that are me [& lifted directly from the original]:

    Lead vocal
    Backing vocals
    Piano
    Bass
    Mellotron strings
    The 4-bar outro lead guitar break

    PLAPA tracks used [with a bit of editing to get a little closer to the original]:

    Drums
    Percussion
    Saxes
    Guitars [all but the outro lead break mentioned above]

    Since my tracks were done to a click & Warren’s weren’t, I had to hand-copy the ever-changing tempo value of each bar of Warren’s tracks from Pro Tools into Logic then edit my tracks to sync it all up. Painstaking but totally worth it!

    As always, all feedback is welcomed & appreciated.

    NOTE: big thanks to Konrad Kobic & Sean Sullivan. Implementing their feedback, I took the snare down 1.5dB & the lead vocal down .5dB for Version 2. Also, I adjusted the brick wall on the bass's high pass filter from 72 to 84Hz. HUGE difference!

    2nd NOTE: Took the snare down another dB & the bass down .3dB along with it for Version 3. Between yesterday's & today's rebalancing, I was able to hear the rest of the mix better & tweak accordingly.

    For me, the lesson is to adjust downward twice what I think I need, see how I feel about that & work my way back up if necessary. There were several times during these remixes where twice what I thought I needed turned out to be just right!

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yz1gmzdwlwms0n0/AACDw5CePKAV9fWlXvWkOKHxa?dl=0

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    #87810
    Konrad Kobic
    Participant

    Hi Pete,

    Interesting Mix, just feel the snare overpowers the rest of the drum kit. the bass guitar could possibly need some brightness bringing back in. Backing vocals could come up in volume as the lead vocal sits a bit forward of the mix. the fade out at the end seems rushed - not sure if the original did it that rushed - but it might be because so used to hearing fadeouts lasting for 20 seconds.

    its good to know that you can fix timing issues to make things work with a click track if you want to add bits.

    but I love this song, I think i'm gonna have to try and do a mix of it myself.

    Keep it going

    Konrad

    #87815
    Pete Sawchuk
    Participant

    Thanks so much for listening, Konrad. I’ve been back & forth on pretty much every aspect you cited & have a tendency to fall in love with a part; here I believe I’ve done so with the snare, bass & lead vocal. Will give things a fresh listen & try to give the other tracks a fair second chance. ?

    And yes the fade on the original ramps down quickly, as if the band had a cab to catch!

    #87820
    Sean Sullivan
    Participant

    Hey Pete - Great mix, and great job putting it all together! I agree with Konrad, the snare could definitely come down, it got to be a bit much as the song went on. To me it also sounded like there was a little too much of the bass under 60hz, I'd try high passing that a bit more. This was always one of my favorite songs "back in the day" so it was fun to hear your take on it.

    - Sean

    #87852
    Pete Sawchuk
    Participant

    Thanks again for the feedback, Konrad - I adjusted the snare, lead vocal & bass [see my edited OP for details] and it made a huge difference!

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    #87854
    Pete Sawchuk
    Participant

    Thanks very much for the feedback, Sean - implementing it made for a way better v2 mix.

    I'm off to listen to your mix of FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH - looking forward to it!

    #87906
    Konrad Kobic
    Participant

    Pete!

    Bang a Mix! that's so much nicer!

    Keep it Up!

    Konrad

    #87914
    Pete Sawchuk
    Participant

    Thanks, Konrad - I actually tightened things up even more in Version 3 [now posted, see OP for details].

    Pete Sawchuk

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    #87935
    Sean Sullivan
    Participant

    V3 for the win! This sounds great Pete. Those last tweaks really made a difference.

    #89951
    Karl Lindberg
    Participant

    Pete! <3
    Love the "pressure" you gave it!
    Gets sort of staccatic and very distinct 🙂
    As someone above mentioned, the snare takes over a tad.
    Balance feels just right.
    Well done my friend!

    #90035
    Pete Sawchuk
    Participant

    Thanks so much for listening, Karl - catch you later on FF.

    peteysaw

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