thanks toby
    i did vinylise the vocal on the ..want to call it the bridge?
    i may have got alittle crazy with the writing automation useing the fader

    i was trying to do that desert sound warren talked about

    warren wasn't kidding about that drummer hitting the snare with his purse. its a challenge just to get it to sound natural...i lisened to some kyass and QotSA..but other than being very dry i dont know how to go about making those sounds...you guys have any ideas?